Seen & Unseen Aloud: making meaning out of life

Winning, losing, the life in between, and the music that accompanies.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

Simone's gold medal moment.

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This week we contemplate the challenges of winning and losing as Julia Kendal asks what Simone Biles might be doing today; Oliver Wright explores the relationship between religion and music, and Silvianne and Barnabas Aspray ask why religion and faith aren't dying any time soon.

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Seen & Unseen Aloud

5 May 2025

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Laughing, unruliness, and diplomacy

Jonny Torrance: we’re less in control than we think; Henna Cundill: AI will never codify the exceptions. And Jamie Mulvaney ask what's the right backdrop for diplomacy.

Natalie Williams

Natalie is the chief executive of Jubilee+ and an author.

A group of comedians pose on a TV show set.

On this Bank Holiday Monday, Jonny Torrance comments on Last One Laughing, deciding we’re less in control than we think; Henna Cundill suggests that AI will never codify the many unruly exceptions to rules as they are what make us human; Jamie Mulvaney asks whether or not a funeral is the appropriate backdrop for diplomacy.