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Elections, the Euros, revival, and betting on eternity.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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In this episode, we make a nod to the events of the week as Joel Pierce asks if political practice can capture something heavenly; Sam Tomlin talks national identity amidst the Euros; Abigail Frymann Rouch asks whether we may be we moving beyond the secular scepticism of religion and James Sampson-Foster invites us to place a bet on our eternal destination.

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Re-enchanting

9 July 2025

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Re-enchanting... belief - Ross Douthat

New York Times columnist Ross Douthat joins Belle and Justin to talk about why religion is good for us

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Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Ross Douthat is a columnist for the New York Times and the author of Believe: why everyone should be religious. He joins Belle and Justin to talk about why religion is good for us, and to give some pointers for how the average agnostic may be able to find their way to faith.

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