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Humility and leadership - a weird but essential combo. Plus the outliers.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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Pope Francis kisses the foot of a woman inmate of the Rebibbia prison.

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This week we think about leadership and humility as unlikely but essential bedfellows: Roger Bretherton exhorts us to look out for the outliers who bring something unique to the group; Graham Tomlin learns about humble leadership from Pope Francis and Elizabeth Wainwright calls out for a new style of leadership in a year of local, national and international elections.

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27 October 2025

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Shifting seasons; Ruth & Boaz, and big waste

New episode: listen to articles by Rachael Newham, Glies Gough, and Jean Kabosomi.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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In this episode Rachael Newham considers the seasons and what we can learn from embracing the changes; Giles Gough reviews the Netflix movie version of the biblical story of Ruth & Boaz; Jean Kabasomi takes us through her experiences of Big Tech and asks whether we are being gaslit into waste.

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