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Humility and leadership - a weird but essential combo. Plus the outliers.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

The Pope, wearing white, kneels, crades a bare foot, and kisses it.

Pope Francis kisses the foot of a woman inmate of the Rebibbia prison.

Vatican Media.

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This week we think about leadership and humility as unlikely but essential bedfellows: Roger Bretherton exhorts us to look out for the outliers who bring something unique to the group; Graham Tomlin learns about humble leadership from Pope Francis and Elizabeth Wainwright calls out for a new style of leadership in a year of local, national and international elections.

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Visionaries

12 September 2025

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Visionaries: Aquinas' reconciling of religion and reason

Andrew Davison joins the GodPod hosts to assess the saint's impact on modern thought

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fra_Bartolomeo, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons.

About this episode

Join hosts Graham Tomlin and Michael Lloyd as they explore Aquinas' reconciliation of religion with reason, his fearless intellectual curiosity, and his enduring influence on theology, philosophy, and beyond.

With insights from Professor Andrew Davison, discover how Aquinas' legacy continues to shape our understanding of faith, reason, and the world today. Tune in for a journey through history that reveals the timeless relevance of Aquinas' ideas

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