Seen & Unseen Aloud: making meaning out of life

Winning, losing, the life in between, and the music that accompanies.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

Simone's gold medal moment.

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This week we contemplate the challenges of winning and losing as Julia Kendal asks what Simone Biles might be doing today; Oliver Wright explores the relationship between religion and music, and Silvianne and Barnabas Aspray ask why religion and faith aren't dying any time soon.

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Seen & Unseen Aloud

6 October 2025

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The profound and profane at sporting events, plus cafe time

New episodes: listen to articles by Jonathan Rowlands, Graham Tomlin, and Joshua Nurcombe-Pike.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

An aerial view of a pub with a large mural of a footballer on it

Jota commemorated, Liverpool.

Liverpool FC.

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About this episode

In this week's episode, Jonathan Rowlands explores the relationship between trauma and sacraments as he visits Anfield; Graham Tomlin asks whether a loss of an "ultimate" is the reason behind the recent behaviour at the Ryder Cup and Joshua Nurcombe-Pike explores the big thinking that goes on in the midst of cafe culture.