Seen & Unseen Aloud: making meaning out of life

Winning, losing, the life in between, and the music that accompanies.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

Simone's gold medal moment.

@simonebiles

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This week we contemplate the challenges of winning and losing as Julia Kendal asks what Simone Biles might be doing today; Oliver Wright explores the relationship between religion and music, and Silvianne and Barnabas Aspray ask why religion and faith aren't dying any time soon.

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13 October 2025

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Taylor Swift; the ABC & the Anti-Christ

New episode; listen to articles by Belle Tindall, Graham Tomlin, and Jack Nicholson.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

Taylor Swift, dressed as a showgirl, sips from a glass.

Taylor Swift, showgirl.

Taylorswift.com

About this episode

This episode takes us from Belle Tindall's review of Taylor Swift's new album, via Jack Nicholson talking about Peter Thiel and the Anti-Christ, to Graham Tomlin's advice to the new Archbishop of Canterbury.