The Met Gala, that conclave, and artificial intelligence

New episode. why the pope counts, who wasn't at that gala, and how we handle AI.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A gather of cardinals in the Sistene Chapel.

This week, Belle Tindall takes us to the Met Gala in NYC and asks whether the unseen exists; Graham Tomlin considers why the choice of the next Pope is so important and Callum Elwood asks if AI animation really is harmless fun?

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Re-enchanting

16 July 2025

1 min read

Re-enchanting... The story of Jesus - Bear Grylls

Justin and Belle talk to Bear about his journey and the inspiration behind his new project

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

Bear Grylls talks next to a caption reading 'it's the greatest story ever told.

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Bear Grylls is an adventurer and survival expert who has become known to millions through his TV shows, documentaries and writing. His most recent book is ’The Greatest Story Every Told’, an account of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus told through the eyes of five eyewitnesses

Justin and Belle talk to Bear about his own life and faith journey and the inspiration behind his new project as they re-enchant… the story of Jesus.

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