Love is not an order, who prays, and The Salt Path

Exploring love from three very different perspectives

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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Far right protesters, Portsmouth.

Tim Sheerman-Chase, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons

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In this episode we explore love from three very different perspectives: Barnabas Apsray considers Christian Nationalism - is it an oxymoron? Roger Bretherton talks about how 1-in-4 people pray or meditate daily and how beneficial that is to their life; Roger Standing walks us through The Salt Path - from real life to book to movie - the story of love against all odds and what it teaches us about ourselves.

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Assisted dying, Jane Austen and how to solve the Gaza conflict

New episode: the silent campaigns groups, Jane Austen inspires, and why only politics can solve Gaza.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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About this episode

This week's thought-provoking selection starts with Jamie Gillies asking suicide prevention organisations to get involved in the Assisted Dying debate; Beatrice Schudeler introduces us to Jane Austen-inspired novels of different times and genres, and Graham Tomlin tracks the political history of Gaza back to the Roman Empire and still suggests that only politics can find a long term solution.

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Since Spring 2023, thousands of people have enjoyed hundreds of podcast episodes and over 1,000 articles. All for free.
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If you enjoy Seen & Unseen Aloud, would you consider making a gift towards our work?

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