Christian nationalism, who prays, and The Salt Path

New episode: Barney Aspray on nationalism, Roger Bretherton on praying, and Roger Standing reviews The Salt Path.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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In this episode we explore love from three very different perspectives: Barnabas Apsray considers Christian Nationalism - is it an oxymoron? Roger Bretherton talks about how 1-in-4 people pray or meditate daily and how beneficial that is to their life; Roger Standing walks us through Salt Path - from real life to book to movie - the story of love against all odds and what it teaches us about ourselves.

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Language learning, Danny Kruger, and The Fantastic Four

Jonathan Rowlands, Graham Tomlin, and Krish Kandiah. On empathy, thin religion, and superhero families.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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This week Jonathan Rowlands suggests that learning other languages opens up other ways of experiencing the world; Graham Tomlin responds to Danny Kruger and his critics; Krish Kandiah shares what The Fantastic Four taught him about family, truth and navigating the end of the world.

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