Christian nationalism, who prays, and The Salt Path

New episode: Barney Aspray on nationalism, Roger Bretherton on praying, and Roger Standing reviews The Salt Path.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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In this episode we explore love from three very different perspectives: Barnabas Apsray considers Christian Nationalism - is it an oxymoron? Roger Bretherton talks about how 1-in-4 people pray or meditate daily and how beneficial that is to their life; Roger Standing walks us through Salt Path - from real life to book to movie - the story of love against all odds and what it teaches us about ourselves.

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29 September 2025

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Severance, poverty, and what makes us human

New episode. Rick Hansen George Pitcher and Claire Williams explore the seen and unseen

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

Pascal ponders a steampunk TV showing Severance.

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This week, Rick Hansen explores the worlds of Apple TV's Severance through the lens of Blaise Pascal; George Pitcher asks how a supposedly "Godly nation" can have such extensive levels child poverty and Claire Williams asks the biggest question of all, what makes us human?