Seen & Unseen Aloud: summer special

When the journey is the destination; the case for holidays, and getting the best out of downtime.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A pair of sunglasses beside a swimming pool.

Jakob Owens on Unsplash.

In this summer box set special, Jamie Mulvaney thinks about third spaces and when the journey is the destination; Natalie Garrett makes a case for taking a holiday and Roger Bretherton talks us through how to get the best out of our downtime.

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20 October 2025

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A wild Belle, Sarah Mullally and 'defending our girls'.

New episode: listen to articles by Jonathan Evens, George Pitcher, and Belle Tindall.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A protester hold a blue flare towards the camera

An asylum hotel protester, Epping.

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In this episode, Jonathan Evens takes us to Union Chapel where Natalie Bergman's soul-soaked set turned personal tragedy into communal celebration. George Pitcher evokes historical precedent for why Sarah Mullally’s appointment as Archbishop of Canterbury is about more than just breaking the stained-glass ceiling. And Belle Tindall passionately suggests that “Defending our girls” is less about safety, more about scapegoating (please be aware of potentially triggering content in this last article).