Seen & Unseen Aloud: new episode

The spiritual potential of Inside Out, the emotional ride through Wild God, and Grenfell as a significant cultural moment.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A pianist raises his arms while sitting at a grand piano amid recording equipment.

Nick Cave plays Wild God.

This week we enter a world of high drama - internally we voyage with Henna Cundill through the spiritual potential of the Inside Out films; Belle Tindall takes us on an emotional ride through Nick Cave's new album, Wild God; and Graham Tomlin challenges us to see The Grenfell Tower Inquiry as a significant cultural moment to reflect personally and nationally on the way we treat each other.

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Re-enchanting

2 April 2025

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Esther Maria Magnis: re-enchanting suffering

A raw account of the beauty of life and the ugliness of death.

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Esther Maria Magnis is a German writer whose book With or Without Me is a memoir of her journey with faith and the perception of reality.

With unflinching honesty Esther takes us through her childhood and adolescence as she, along with her brother and sister, deals with the grief of her father’s cancer diagnosis, her prayers, and her journey through the loss of faith, into materialism, self-deconstruction and finally the turn back to the idea of God.

Justin and Belle talk to Esther about her raw account of coming to terms with faith through the beauty of life, the ugliness of death, and even the apparent silence of God.

With or With Out Me is published by Plough.

With or With Out Me