Seen & Unseen Aloud: new episode

Life is messy, making a home in Blackpool and the art of pilgrimage.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A country lane runs down a gentle hill between green and yellow fields under a cloud dappled sky.

The fields of Hertfordshire

Graeme Holdsworth.

This week we turn with Emerson Csorba to American politics - and James Baker in particular - to explore the messiness of life; we travel with John Clifton to Blackpool to find out how to make a place a home and Graeme Holdsworth asks what makes a journey into a pilgrimage?

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Seen & Unseen Aloud

5 May 2025

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Laughing, unruliness, and diplomacy

Jonny Torrance: we’re less in control than we think; Henna Cundill: AI will never codify the exceptions. And Jamie Mulvaney ask what's the right backdrop for diplomacy.

Natalie Williams

Natalie is the chief executive of Jubilee+ and an author.

A group of comedians pose on a TV show set.

On this Bank Holiday Monday, Jonny Torrance comments on Last One Laughing, deciding we’re less in control than we think; Henna Cundill suggests that AI will never codify the many unruly exceptions to rules as they are what make us human; Jamie Mulvaney asks whether or not a funeral is the appropriate backdrop for diplomacy.