Seen & Unseen Aloud: new episode

Life is messy, making a home in Blackpool and the art of pilgrimage.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A country lane runs down a gentle hill between green and yellow fields under a cloud dappled sky.

The fields of Hertfordshire

Graeme Holdsworth.

This week we turn with Emerson Csorba to American politics - and James Baker in particular - to explore the messiness of life; we travel with John Clifton to Blackpool to find out how to make a place a home and Graeme Holdsworth asks what makes a journey into a pilgrimage?

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Seen & Unseen Aloud

27 May 2025

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Alex Warren, third spaces, and lessons in leadership

New episode: listen as we explore a chart topper, a hip gym and leading with humility.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A singer holding a guitar raises his head with closed eyes.

Warren on stage.

Mike M. Cohen, CC BY 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons.

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This week, Ed Chan-Stroud explores Alex Warren's song Ordinary for signs of the fundamentals of human longing; Jessica Norman goes to a Third Space gym and thinks about the cost of belonging, and Graham Tomlin was at Pope Leo's inauguration and shares with us what he noticed.