Seen & Unseen Aloud: new episode

Life is messy, making a home in Blackpool and the art of pilgrimage.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A country lane runs down a gentle hill between green and yellow fields under a cloud dappled sky.

The fields of Hertfordshire

Graeme Holdsworth.

This week we turn with Emerson Csorba to American politics - and James Baker in particular - to explore the messiness of life; we travel with John Clifton to Blackpool to find out how to make a place a home and Graeme Holdsworth asks what makes a journey into a pilgrimage?

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Re-enchanting

9 July 2025

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Re-enchanting... belief - Ross Douthat

New York Times columnist Ross Douthat joins Belle and Justin to talk about why religion is good for us

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Ross Douthat is a columnist for the New York Times and the author of Believe: why everyone should be religious. He joins Belle and Justin to talk about why religion is good for us, and to give some pointers for how the average agnostic may be able to find their way to faith.

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