Portofino, neurodiversity, and McGovern's Unforgivable.

Poverty amid the privileged, the issue of over-diagnosing, and a difficult drama to watch.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

Portofino harbour.

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This week, George Pitcher takes us on our tour of the Portofino "bubble"; Henna Cundill has read Suzanne O'Sullivan's book and suggests we don't have an over-diagnosis problem, we have a society problem; and Henry Corbett describes Jimmy McGovern's brave storytelling in Unforgivable and asks whether there is such a thing as an unforgiveable sin.

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27 May 2025

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Alex Warren, third spaces, and lessons in leadership

New episode: listen as we explore a chart topper, a hip gym and leading with humility.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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Warren on stage.

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This week, Ed Chan-Stroud explores Alex Warren's song Ordinary for signs of the fundamentals of human longing; Jessica Norman goes to a Third Space gym and thinks about the cost of belonging, and Graham Tomlin was at Pope Leo's inauguration and shares with us what he noticed.