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23 June 2025

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Love is not an order, who prays, and The Salt Path

Exploring love from three very different perspectives

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

A protester wearing a Union Jack flag and hat and holding a cross, points while a man looks on.

Far right protesters, Portsmouth.

Tim Sheerman-Chase, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons

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In this episode we explore love from three very different perspectives: Barnabas Apsray considers Christian Nationalism - is it an oxymoron? Roger Bretherton talks about how 1-in-4 people pray or meditate daily and how beneficial that is to their life; Roger Standing walks us through The Salt Path - from real life to book to movie - the story of love against all odds and what it teaches us about ourselves.

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