The Met Gala, that conclave, and artificial intelligence

New episode. why the pope counts, who wasn't at that gala, and how we handle AI.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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This week, Belle Tindall takes us to the Met Gala in NYC and asks whether the unseen exists; Graham Tomlin considers why the choice of the next Pope is so important and Callum Elwood asks if AI animation really is harmless fun?

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Why my daughter's death changed my life

Nadim Ednan-Laperouse on grief, hope, and an extraordinary spiritual experience

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Nadim Ednan-Laperouse.

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About this episode

Nadim Ednan-Laperouse OBE is founder and trustee (along with his wife, Tanya) of The Natasha Allergy Research Foundation – which was established in the name of Nadim and Tanya’s daughter, Natasha, who died as a result of an allergic reaction to a baguette which did not have the correct information on its packaging.

The story of Natasha’s death captured the attention of the nation and is still inspiring invaluable research and change.

Nadim talks to Justin and Belle about Natasha, grief, hope, and the extraordinary spiritual experience that accompanied his daughter's final hours.

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