Laughing, unruliness, and diplomacy

Jonny Torrance: we’re less in control than we think; Henna Cundill: AI will never codify the exceptions. And Jamie Mulvaney ask what's the right backdrop for diplomacy.

Natalie Williams

Natalie is the chief executive of Jubilee+ and an author.

A group of comedians pose on a TV show set.

On this Bank Holiday Monday, Jonny Torrance comments on Last One Laughing, deciding we’re less in control than we think; Henna Cundill suggests that AI will never codify the many unruly exceptions to rules as they are what make us human; Jamie Mulvaney asks whether or not a funeral is the appropriate backdrop for diplomacy.

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Seen & Unseen Aloud

29 September 2025

1 min read

Severance, poverty, and what makes us human

New episode. Rick Hansen George Pitcher and Claire Williams explore the seen and unseen

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

Pascal ponders a steampunk TV showing Severance.

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About the episode

This week, Rick Hansen explores the worlds of Apple TV's Severance through the lens of Blaise Pascal; George Pitcher asks how a supposedly "Godly nation" can have such extensive levels child poverty and Claire Williams asks the biggest question of all, what makes us human?