Language learning, Danny Kruger, and The Fantastic Four

Jonathan Rowlands, Graham Tomlin, and Krish Kandiah. On empathy, thin religion, and superhero families.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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This week Jonathan Rowlands suggests that learning other languages opens up other ways of experiencing the world; Graham Tomlin responds to Danny Kruger and his critics; Krish Kandiah shares what The Fantastic Four taught him about family, truth and navigating the end of the world.

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11 June 2025

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Lamorna Ash: re-enchanting... conversion

Author Lamorna Ash talks to Belle and Justin about her odyssey to discover why so many young people are turning to a faith.

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Lamorna Ash is an award-winning writer and journalist, she’s the author of Dark, Salt, Clear: Life in a Cornish Fishing Town and the brand new Don’t Forget We’re Here Forever: A New Generation’s Search for Religion, both of which have caught a huge amount of attention.

Lamorna tells Belle and Justin about her tour of the UK - why her curiosity caused her to drive the length and breadth of the country, seeking out young adults who have converted to Christianity - and whether, by the end of it, she could count herself as one of them.