Jonathan Pageau: re-enchanting just about everything

Belle and Justin talk with Jonathan about the symbolic patterns that underlie our experience of the world.

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Jonathan Pageau is a French Canadian icon carver, public speaker and YouTuber exploring the symbolic patterns that underlie our experience of the world. He's also the editor of the Orthodox Arts Journal and host of the Symbolic World blog and podcast.

Jonathan is also known for his friendship with Jordan Peterson, another thinker invested in symbolism, psychology and pointing people back to Christianity as the modern West navigates a ‘meaning crisis’.

Jonathan talk to Justin and Belle about meaning, symbolism, atheism and the meaning crisis as we ask whether we can re-enchant… just about everything!

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Seen & Unseen Aloud

24 March 2025

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Adolescence, witches and theological map-making

Netflix's powerful new series, bewitchment, and Rowan Williams invites us to "come and see".

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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In this week's eclectic mix, Lauren Westwood dives into Netflix's powerful new series, Adolescence; Belle Tindall asks why we are so bewitched by witches and Rowan Williams invites us to "come and see" while he gives us a lesson in theological map-making.