Jonathan Pageau: re-enchanting just about everything

Belle and Justin talk with Jonathan about the symbolic patterns that underlie our experience of the world.

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Jonathan Pageau is a French Canadian icon carver, public speaker and YouTuber exploring the symbolic patterns that underlie our experience of the world. He's also the editor of the Orthodox Arts Journal and host of the Symbolic World blog and podcast.

Jonathan is also known for his friendship with Jordan Peterson, another thinker invested in symbolism, psychology and pointing people back to Christianity as the modern West navigates a ‘meaning crisis’.

Jonathan talk to Justin and Belle about meaning, symbolism, atheism and the meaning crisis as we ask whether we can re-enchant… just about everything!

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Re-enchanting

30 June 2025

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Why my daughter's death changed my life

Nadim Ednan-Laperouse on grief, hope, and an extraordinary spiritual experience

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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About this episode

Nadim Ednan-Laperouse OBE is founder and trustee (along with his wife, Tanya) of The Natasha Allergy Research Foundation – which was established in the name of Nadim and Tanya’s daughter, Natasha, who died as a result of an allergic reaction to a baguette which did not have the correct information on its packaging.

The story of Natasha’s death captured the attention of the nation and is still inspiring invaluable research and change.

Nadim talks to Justin and Belle about Natasha, grief, hope, and the extraordinary spiritual experience that accompanied his daughter's final hours.

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