Jonathan Pageau: re-enchanting just about everything

Belle and Justin talk with Jonathan about the symbolic patterns that underlie our experience of the world.

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Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Jonathan Pageau is a French Canadian icon carver, public speaker and YouTuber exploring the symbolic patterns that underlie our experience of the world. He's also the editor of the Orthodox Arts Journal and host of the Symbolic World blog and podcast.

Jonathan is also known for his friendship with Jordan Peterson, another thinker invested in symbolism, psychology and pointing people back to Christianity as the modern West navigates a ‘meaning crisis’.

Jonathan talk to Justin and Belle about meaning, symbolism, atheism and the meaning crisis as we ask whether we can re-enchant… just about everything!

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Andrew Davison: re-enchanting... reality

Don't separating things into ‘natural' and ‘supernatural’ - enchantment is part of our world.

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Revd Professor Andrew Davison is Regius Professor of Divinity at The University of Oxford. Andrew has both a scientific and theological background and has frequently worked on the intersection of science and faith, as well as writing on ‘participation’ and the ’sacramental theology' of blessing in books such as Participation In God and Blessing.

Andrew says we need to rethink separating things into the categories of ‘natural' and ‘supernatural’ - enchantment is part and parcel of the way the world is and the way we engage it.

So today Justin and Belle are going to attempt to to re-enchant… reality.

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