Jesus, the refugee? New GodPod episode

Barnabas Aspray joins the hosts to dig into the theology of migration.

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Mass immigration and forced migration is one of the most talked about topics of the moment – it’s dominating the headlines, fuelling political conversation, causing division and trickling its way into every sphere of society. With Christians sitting on all sides of all possible opinions, this episode of GodPod sees Graham, Jane, and Mike joined by specialist, Dr Barnabas Aspray. Join them as they dig into some of the theology of migration.

Barnabas is Assistant Professor of Systematic Theology, at St Mary's Seminary & University, Baltimore. Find out more about his research interests.

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Language learning, Danny Kruger, and The Fantastic Four

Jonathan Rowlands, Graham Tomlin, and Krish Kandiah. On empathy, thin religion, and superhero families.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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This week Jonathan Rowlands suggests that learning other languages opens up other ways of experiencing the world; Graham Tomlin responds to Danny Kruger and his critics; Krish Kandiah shares what The Fantastic Four taught him about family, truth and navigating the end of the world.

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