Christian nationalism, who prays, and The Salt Path

New episode: Barney Aspray on nationalism, Roger Bretherton on praying, and Roger Standing reviews The Salt Path.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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In this episode we explore love from three very different perspectives: Barnabas Apsray considers Christian Nationalism - is it an oxymoron? Roger Bretherton talks about how 1-in-4 people pray or meditate daily and how beneficial that is to their life; Roger Standing walks us through Salt Path - from real life to book to movie - the story of love against all odds and what it teaches us about ourselves.

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The Met Gala, that conclave, and artificial intelligence

New episode. why the pope counts, who wasn't at that gala, and how we handle AI.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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This week, Belle Tindall takes us to the Met Gala in NYC and asks whether the unseen exists; Graham Tomlin considers why the choice of the next Pope is so important and Callum Elwood asks if AI animation really is harmless fun?

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