Alex Warren, third spaces, and lessons in leadership

New episode: listen as we explore a chart topper, a hip gym and leading with humility.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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Warren on stage.

Mike M. Cohen, CC BY 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons.

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This week, Ed Chan-Stroud explores Alex Warren's song Ordinary for signs of the fundamentals of human longing; Jessica Norman goes to a Third Space gym and thinks about the cost of belonging, and Graham Tomlin was at Pope Leo's inauguration and shares with us what he noticed.

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21 July 2025

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Don Quixote liberating spirit, and the five-hour outdoor drama that wowed

Jonathan Rowlands feels liberated by reading Don Quixote and Rachel Luckett is uncharacteristically effusive

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

Statues of Don Quixote and Sancho Panza point toward a windmill

Don Quixote and Sancho Panza statues, Tandil, Argentina.

Alena Grebneva, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons.

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About this episode

This week we explore the world of art in literature and drama: Jonathan Rowlands feels liberated by reading Don Quixote and Rachel Luckett is uncharacteristically effusive about her experience attending The Life of Christ at Wintershall.

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