Alex Warren, third spaces, and lessons in leadership

New episode: listen as we explore a chart topper, a hip gym and leading with humility.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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Warren on stage.

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This week, Ed Chan-Stroud explores Alex Warren's song Ordinary for signs of the fundamentals of human longing; Jessica Norman goes to a Third Space gym and thinks about the cost of belonging, and Graham Tomlin was at Pope Leo's inauguration and shares with us what he noticed.

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Re-enchanting

2 July 2025

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Re-enchanting... my lifelong search for God - Donna Freitas

The scholar and writer on losing and seeking faith

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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About this episode

Donna Freitas is a scholar, teacher, writer, and author of fiction and non-fiction for both adults and teenagers. Her most recent book ‘Wishful Thinking: How I lost my faith and why I want to find it’ is a spiritual memoir of her Catholic upbringing and adult search for God.

Justin and Belle talk to Donna about losing and seeking faith

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